FILE NO. 9 | Learn the Work Before You Lead

In this File, Joey and Eric break down a lesson that shaped their careers: say yes to the smaller jobs before you're ready for the bigger ones. By helping other people build, run, and support the things they wanted to do, they learned every part of the process firsthand. That experience gave them the confidence and knowledge to later launch their own projects with fewer surprises and a stronger foundation. It's a conversation about humility, preparation, and why the best way to lead is often to start by supporting.